Saturday, June 04, 2005

Adam and Eve (theology)

When there was only adam and eve, and when they were in the garden of
eden. Before the fall. God gave one rule, don't eat from the tree of
the knowledge of good and evil. What i would like to bring to your
attention is that God did not say: make sacrifices every day. No. God
did not say thou shalt not steal, everything was theirs already. Most
importantly God did not say; Thou shalt not kill. This brings up alot of questions as you can imagine. Does this
mean that if Adam had suddenly gotten tired of his wife and said to
himself "i think ill just get rid of her" and if Adam had murdered his
wife before the fall would it have been wrong?I apologize if that sounds kind of morbid, but it's an interesting
thought.
Let me go back. God had given one rule and one rule only, and you know
what it is of course, don't eat from that one tree (to paraphrase it).
Therefore, it would not have been wrong according to God's laws he had
given so far seeing as thats all he said they couldn't do.
Now, there was alot of other things that God did not say they couldn't
do. Why, didn't they do "bad things" ? Or rather, what prevented them
from doing them? Now stop for a minute and think. What rule did they break when they
fell? They ate of the tree. They broke God's one rule. Did they murder?
Apparently not cause we're here. Secondly, why? Did they not murder, steal, lie, and deceive.
Well if you think about it why do people sin in the first place? Of
course everybody now has a sin nature passed down from this sin that
was commited 6000 yrs or so ago.
So, we, with the sin nature can sin on our own easily without
temptation. But as for Adam and Eve they were without this sin nature,
that we are so accustiomed to having, before the fall. Therefore them
to even have a desire to sin they would have to have a little
temptation. Now I am in no way saying that they could not have sinned on
their own. They were still free-willed creatures, but they as of yet
had no cause, reason, or motivation to disobey their beloved creator.
So, when Satan went to the garden. And when Satan took the shape of a
serpent to go and tempt eve, did go tempt her to, say, lie? No. Did he
tempt her to murder adam? No. He had no reason or motive to tempt them
to do any other thing. Satan's main goal was to cause one or both of
them to willfully break the one law God had made for them. That one
tree, that they were not to eat from. Why did Satan not tempt them to
kill, lie, steal, or covet? becuase these were as of yet not God's
laws!

Now, this raises another question, and i want to make clear that this
next part is all conjecture. It is only what I think and what seems to
me what must have been God's reasoning. So far I have taken from the
Bible and only applied logic. Now I will take what the Bible has said
happened and apply my own conjecture.
Now, the question that this topic raises is: Why, didn't God make
these laws (such as thou shalt not kill etc...) ? I beleive that becuase
of the fact that Adam and eve did not have a sin nature and did not
have any motives for killing, stealing, lying, and type of things God
didn't even need to make laws against these things. Why did God decide to make the tree? And why did he make that
one rule? That would be even more conjecture, and it would also make
this a whole lot longer than it should be. So, I have decided not to
discuss this. At least for now. Mainly because I really have no idea.
(his thoughts are higher than my thoughts).

Well, if you've read this far at least i haven't scared you that bad, now go ahead and leave a comment and tell me what you think. Go right ahead! Its easy, Don't be afraid!

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Part 2 Update

Well, my finger's swelling is finally going down and my wrist is healed so thats good. my parents decided not to get the x-ray after all so i hope it wasn't broken. anyway, i can type a whole lot better now so thats good :) thanks for all the encouragement and prayers.
Till next post.

Your faithful typer,
Yokanchi

2 comments:

Julie said...

Interesting thoughts, Billy. If Adam and Eve weren't born with a sin nature, did they gain one after the fall? Or since they weren't born into a fallen world, was it just natural for them to sin like it is for us or do you think it wasn't automatic for them? Very interesting... i shall ponder this further!

Glad to hear your wrist is better! Hoping your finger heals quickly.

~ Julie

Yokanchi said...

well i'm glad, somone read it

no im kidding, i know some people read it.
I asked them :lol: